[Blabber] Girls Arduino Class in Space Tomorrow Afternoon

Robert O'Connor robby.oconnor at gmail.com
Tue Jan 28 04:40:52 UTC 2014


I apologize. Let's forget this happened :)

--rob
Sent from my cell...excuse typos
On Jan 27, 2014 11:39 PM, "Peter Shenkin" <shenkin at gmail.com> wrote:

> "And, in the spirit of making women feel welcome on this list - can we
> stop making fun of the inequality or under representation of women in STEM."
>
> On this point only, have you seen that? I've not, at least in this thread,
> but I don't recall encountering it in the past, either.
>
> -P.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Margaret Spring <mspring at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm living proof to Martin's point.  From the Barbie that says "Math is
>> Hard" to the regular occurrence, that I've experienced, of people assuming
>> any women in technology is in HR or marketing... not to mention asked to
>> get coffee.  For all those reasons, I'm interested in a class to give girls
>> confidence in exploring technology.  I think it's an Achilles heel of the
>> field and a type of class that I would have loved growing up.
>>
>> It'd be great if anyone at HM is interested in putting together an
>> Arduino class with boys.  There are lots of non-gender specific classes out
>> there and I'd be happy to help out.
>>
>> And, in the spirit of making women feel welcome on this list - can we
>> stop making fun of the inequality or under representation of women in STEM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Martin Andrews <
>> HackManhattan at platformedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anecdotal evidence : My mother is a Physics teacher.  She has taught at
>>> both mixed and single-sex (girls) schools.  She would advocate single-sex
>>> class rooms every time.  In her experience, boys tend to dominate the
>>> discussion, forcing girls to take a back seat (often literally).  Given an
>>> appropriate opportunity to learn, though, girls tend to dominate the boys
>>> in tests/understanding in the longer run (university entrances stats, etc).
>>>
>>> Just 2c.
>>> Martin
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> (posting from Singapore)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 January 2014 11:09, Ignacio Verboten <warpman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you done spouting bull?  Do you care about education or ideals?
>>>>
>>>> "Equal" when it comes to rights is not functionally equivalent to "The
>>>> Same" when it comes to educational needs.
>>>>
>>>> Ask some actual elementary school teachers and examine real-world
>>>> evidence of the efficacy of single-sex classes before claiming some social
>>>> justice bullshit excuse.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 18:48, Robby O'Connor <robby.oconnor at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brown v. Board of Ed
>>>>
>>>> Segregation was messed up during the Jim Crow days and this doesn't sit
>>>> well with me.  Separate but equal doesn't work! Integrate them...nothing
>>>> wrong with them working together...segregation just enforces the societal
>>>> ideas that girls are somehow less superior to boys...they're equal -- treat
>>>> them as such!
>>>>
>>>> Just my $0.02!
>>>> On 01/27/2014 03:29 PM, Ignacio Verboten wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that the classes should be segregated, girls in one class, boys
>>>> in another.  See the research on academic performance on students by age
>>>> and sex when taught in integrated classes vs segregated classes.
>>>>
>>>>  Think me a backwards Ogre, I don't care.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 12:09, Robby O'Connor <robby.oconnor at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I think we should open it up to middle-school aged...it's the best
>>>> time to reach them...It's just my $0.02 -- i agree opening it up to the
>>>> boys of similar age but also expanding the age range a bit -- not too much
>>>> but a lil bit +3 years maybe?
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> --rob
>>>> Jus sayin!
>>>> On 01/26/2014 10:08 AM, David Reeves wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it went really well. Congrats to you all - nice job!
>>>>
>>>>  I'm wondering whether similarly-aged boys would actually sit still
>>>> and pay attention for 3 hours. Maybe we should find out!
>>>>
>>>>  Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Margaret Spring <mspring at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Arduino for Girls class was a huge success! Thank you SOO much for
>>>>> everyone that helped make it happen. There were a bunch of little girls
>>>>> hacking away and loving it.  I still can't wipe the smile off my face!
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Robert, Dave, Justin & Guan were fantastic resources!  So
>>>>>    helpful throughout the development - the men behind the women ;)
>>>>>    - Fawn and Meryl were huge help as well! They were super great
>>>>>    coaching the girls and their support made the class a giant success.
>>>>>    - And, Heather was absolutely amazing!  COuldn't ask for a better
>>>>>    partner in developing it.  There was NO way this could have been pulled off
>>>>>    without all her hard work and teaching experience!   Getting 9 year old
>>>>>    programming and having a great time is QUITE a feat - she did it with grace
>>>>>    and fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate everyone's contributions SO much! We're seeing about what
>>>>> next steps make sense.  Hopefully we'll pique more hacking curiosity in
>>>>> young girls... and maybe get some of their parents as HM members? :)  And,
>>>>> last but not least -- I'd be ill mannered if I didn't also point out that
>>>>> the space was REALLY clean and tidy!  Thank you to the wonderful magic
>>>>> gremlins that gave us that wonderful gift!
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thank you, thank you, thank you!
>>>>>  MS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Robert Diamond <rmd6502 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How did the class go?  Will you do it again?  Bigger class?  When?
>>>>>>  Really excited to hear the results!
>>>>>> Rob D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Jan 24, 2014, at 15:33, Margaret Spring <mspring at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Hack Manhattan folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Just a reminder that we're running the Arduino for Girls class
>>>>>> tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon in the space.  There will be a bunch of young
>>>>>> girls 9 & 10 years old learning about Arduino from 2-5 in the afternoon.
>>>>>> Just wanted to give everyone a heads up in case it impacts any plans for
>>>>>> using the space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  We won't be taking over the whole space, but will be monopolizing
>>>>>> the main center tables and using the projector for those 3 hours.  Heather,
>>>>>> Fawn, Meryl & I will be handling things. Everyone's help putting this
>>>>>> together has been great & is MUCH appreciated! Please let us know if you
>>>>>> have ANY questions!  It should be a great class!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It's currently full (7 students - we wanted to keep it small since
>>>>>> it's our first time running it) and has a waiting list, so we can't take
>>>>>> any more student. We're not sure about next steps, but please do let us
>>>>>> know if you're interested & we can keep you informed as we put together
>>>>>> anything further.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Thanks!
>>>>>> MS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  arduinogirls.eventbrite.com
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